Big Red Flix 45: True Grit (Part 2)

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In this episode, Dave, Yoshifett and Smelly Pirate wrap up their break down the 2010 remake of True Grit. Jitterbug has stated on the record that he’ll be purchasing a new computer sometime in January, but the show must go on. Check back on BRB next week for an all new Flix!

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  1. Badhaggis

    Yeah! Thanks Dave :)

  2. zombiesauerkraut

    I loved how maniacally excited and truly happy Mattie seemed to be when she said “Stand up, Tom Chaney” and then blasts him at point blank range without a moment’s hesitation. Gave me goosebumps. But then it was kinda stupid how she’s propelled backwards into a snake pit. So stupid in fact, I figured it must be symbolic of something. Seems kinda Freudian, falling into deep, dark, snake infested caves, though it doesn’t make much sense, her being a little lady an’ all, I reckon.

     

    You guys, please…PLEASE let Dave do the next BKR synopsis as Bane! I don’t think I’ve ever wanted anything more in my entire life!

    Great show, as always!

  3. If Jitterbug isn’t back the next time we do a BKR, I shall Bane it up! Thanks for listening.

  4. Yoshifett

    zombiesauerkraut said
    But then it was kinda stupid how she’s propelled backwards into a snake pit. So stupid in fact, I figured it must be symbolic of something. 

     

    Isn’t it possible that she was not prepared for the recoil on a rifle like that since the first gun she fired was a pistol and she fell down after shooting that? Anyway, I’m certainly not going to be a stickler for reality when it comes to a point like that. It seems conceivable enough to me, but then again, I accept water cores.

     

  5. zombiesauerkraut

    I’m not saying that the way she fell down the pit was unrealistic. That she was thrown off balance because of the recoil is exactly what I saw and it makes sense. It just seems like a really goofy way to tie together this scene with the ending. The only reason I can see this scene being there is to put the girl in peril so that we can see how much LaBoeuf and especially Rooster are willing to go through for this girl. But if that’s the case, then wouldn’t it have been better if she’d been shot, or mauled by a bear, or struck by lightning? I also thought the corpse in the pit was going to be someone who meant something to her, like her father, which is the only reason I can see for her actually touching it, revealing the snakes. This whole part just seemed forced and out of place to me. But if I’m missing something, then please feel free to educate me.

    BTW Water cores are real and I pray to them every night. You must BELIEVE, Yoshi!

  6. Yoshifett

    I thought it was to show her connection with Cogburn. I didn’t think it was that complicated. The entire ending was a reaffirmation of the connection between the two characters. At that point in the film, you’re very much rooting for both of them, so to have her in peril that way and to have Cogburn save her created a deeply sincere moment in which he carries her to the nearest cabin after sucking the poison out of her hand! I don’t know, when he hobbled to the cabin and the very end and fired his gun in the air, I got chills when the light in the cabin came on, so it was effective in generating sympathy from me for the characters.

     

  7. zombiesauerkraut

    I totally get that the whole ending and Mattie’s peril is to show the connection between the two of them. I just didn’t know why it had to be her falling into a cave. “How’d you lose that there arm, missy? Fell into a snake pit.” Sounds made-up. But I did forget about the poison sucking. It adds another layer, making Rooster’s caring for her even more touching. And when he fires his gun near the cabin, also a great moment. Still, falling into a cave, just seems goofy, but whatever.

  8. zombiesauerkraut said
    I’m not saying that the way she fell down the pit was unrealistic. That she was thrown off balance because of the recoil is exactly what I saw and it makes sense. It just seems like a really goofy way to tie together this scene with the ending. The only reason I can see this scene being there is to put the girl in peril so that we can see how much LaBoeuf and especially Rooster are willing to go through for this girl. But if that’s the case, then wouldn’t it have been better if she’d been shot, or mauled by a bear, or struck by lightning? I also thought the corpse in the pit was going to be someone who meant something to her, like her father, which is the only reason I can see for her actually touching it, revealing the snakes. This whole part just seemed forced and out of place to me. But if I’m missing something, then please feel free to educate me.

    BTW Water cores are real and I pray to them every night. You must BELIEVE, Yoshi!

     

    This is exactly how I felt about it. I’m a huge fan of this movie, but the snake pit scene just feels out of place and odd to me. I love the emotional payoff that results from it, but I think it could have been arrived at more smoothly.

  9. Yoshifett

    Weird. I never even considered it to be an oddity in the film, especially since Lucky Ned Pepper mentions it earlier.

  10. Don F Fuentes

    True Grit is no Outlaw Josey Wales…aside from the nuisance that is the precocious Mattie attempting to educate all the dumb ass adults…TG has a made for TV kind of feel to it…or maybe one step up, an HBO original movie…

     

    B-

     

     

  11. Badhaggis

    I love the way someone’s one-staring everything Yoshi says, but to be fair WATER-CORES ARE COMPLETELY SILLY. 

     

     

     

    Carry on.

     

     

     

     

  12. The snake pit scene is meant as a metaphor for her character’s fall from grace. Despite how brazen and ‘adult’ she acted throughout the movie, she’s still just a little girl. Shooting the rifle was the moment where her character descended into evil, and the snake pit is meant to mimic her fall. Being saved by the men that have been festering in that evil all along is a nice way to show how she’s now fallen to their level, and they know how to live in that world. 

    All that being said, I thought that part was super silly, and it felt incredibly out of place. I adore the Cohens, but this felt sloppy. It’s almost as if the screen writer got to that part of the movie and wanted to do something to express how the little girl had fallen from grace, but didn’t know how to do it. I think there are a hundred better ways to do it than have her fall into a snake pit. Funny exercise: Try to think of a MORE literal way of expressing a character’s fall from grace without having the character scream, “Oh poop! I am falling from grace right this very moment!” She falls into a pit of snakes! I’m actually struggling to think of a scenario that would be more hamfisted than that. 

    Maybe if the bottom of the pit was filled with guns, oil, snakes, and a box of pornography. I don’t know.

  13. Yoshifett

    Fair enough. I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t think it’s silly. Oddly enough, the only thing I thought was a little off about it was how it was foreshadowed so heavily that it was really no surprise when it happened.

  14. Don F Fuentes

    The snake pit scene is meant as a metaphor for her character’s fall from grace. Despite how brazen and ‘adult’ she acted throughout the movie, she’s still just a little girl. Shooting the rifle was the moment where her character descended into evil, and the snake pit is meant to mimic her fall. Being saved by the men that have been festering in that evil all along is a nice way to show how she’s now fallen to their level, and they know how to live in that world.

     

    Well done, sir..

  15. Awesome episode, I’ve still to see this film, but i’ve listened to this BKR about 4 times (both episodes) and the more I hear u guys talk about it the more I feel like I need to see it. I was looking on Netflix and Sky on-demand. I’m sure they had it up there at some point, but I couldnt find it. Ah well, If i see it on DVD i’ll snatch it up.

    Cheers guys!

    ~Prime

  16. Badhaggis

    On a different note, will BRF still be around when Texas secceds from the Union? These questions need answering.

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